Who here has gas?

[Type40]

I have bitten the bullet and booked my car in today to get a vapour injected LPG system fitted to my TL. I went with the vapour injection system because i have been told by a couple of good sources that it should maintain power and economy levels in comparison to ULP and not be as susceptible to backfiring.

Yes i know i have mentioned before to many people on AMC that LPG is for BBQ's and i expect a flaming (pun intended) but because the costs of petrol are getting higher and higher and the whole global warming thing is starting to bother me (a sign of getting old!) the environmental benefits and reduction in running costs of LPG have to be considered...

So...what i am interested in hearing is peoples opinions on both LPG systems and your experiences with 3rd gen Magnas on gas. Cheers!

[kj.ei]

I don't have gas but am interested to hear more about it.

Is this a straight gas system or dual fuel? How much is the install setting you back? How many KM's to a tank?

[BonoVox]

I'm thinking of taking the plunge and getting it done soon too. Does anyone have a pace in Sydney to recommend for getting a good job done at a good price (dual fuel sub $3000).

Cheers, Dave

[Type40]

I don't have gas but am interested to hear more about it.

Is this a straight gas system or dual fuel? How much is the install setting you back? How many KM's to a tank?

Its a dual fuel system that used the petrol injectors electrical signal to fire the gas solenoids (injectors) so there is no mixer as such. I have been told to expect up to 10% worse economy on gas which doesn't bother me as it is doing 10 l/100 combined on petrol so 11/100 on gas at 65 cents per litre (so $7.15 to do 100 kms on gas versus $15 on petrol at $1.50). As for the cost of the installation... Its not cheap! Try $4350 which is $2350 with the rebate. But i did the math and it should have paid for itself in 18 months of average driving.

[FrogInASock]

I put LPG on my TF Verada 3.5 when petrol hit $1 a litre, about 3 1/2 years ago. The initial conversion was CRAP (lesson: cheapest quote need not necessarily be the best) with the bloke using the roughest, sand cast mixer I have ever seen (a simple reverse trumpet, later found to be for a 2.6 litre Holden Rodeo!) and completely deleting the back pressure hose, which meant that the car stalled at about every second set of lights. I don't know where you are, Type40, but if in Sydney, AVOID the LPG fitter in Marrickville. He's the only one there.

Larry Mulder Gas Conversions in Wollongong came to the rescue with a beautifully made ring mixer and a back pressure hose, and the car hasn't missed a beat since. Best economy I've had on LPG was 280km to 22 litres after a day on the Yorke Penninsula in Adelaide. At current prices (68 cpl) I do better than 100 km for every $10 spent, mainly town driving, 60 odd km/h with traffic lights and all that stuff.

You do lose a fair bit of boot, but I also own a ute and a box trailer, so that wasn't an issue. And Magnas have a big boot anyway.

Basically, LPG is your friend!

In my most humble opinion, despite what the politicians say about the price of LPG in Singapore, it will always be less than half of the petrol price. If petrol hits $2.00, LPG will be 0.90. With petrol sittign at 1.60 in Adelaide now, if it doesn't go down i expect gas to climb to 75cpl. My opinion only.

[reecho]

Best thing I did for mine...!!!

I have a parnell vapour system fitted and never had a backfire and driveability is superb.

Managed to get that done for the 3k rebate available in WA so i was ahead from the start.

If you dont want a small performance cut with LPG go for the injected setup but both are good...

[Type40]

I don't know where you are, Type40, but if in Sydney, AVOID the LPG fitter in Marrickville. He's the only one there.

Its ok! Im in Geelong but im getting the job done in Melbourne.

Best thing I did for mine...!!!

I have a parnell vapour system fitted and never had a backfire and driveability is superb.

Managed to get that done for the 3k rebate available in WA so i was ahead from the start.

If you dont want a small performance cut with LPG go for the injected setup but both are good...

I was quoted $2900 for the mixer system but i really wanted to make sure that it was not going to backfire and be as drivable as possible so i am going injected. Wrexed03 had gas issues with his 3.5 Pajero when it was on the mixer system and did the airflow meter due to backfiring. He has now gone injected and is very happy with it.

[White]

ive got it. i also fit them at work. gas injection is the way to plus any car after 2003 if converted to gas legally must be injected. its the best way to go anyway. i would recommend the impco/prinns system as thats what the 380s have and have one of the quiter injectors.

[s_tim_ulate]

My dads got a factory dedicated TJII

Gas is cheap as, makes sense.

[Type40]

i would recommend the prinns system as thats what the 380s have and have one of the quiter injectors.

The company i am going through uses Eurogas and Parnell. Which would you say is the better of the two?